I read all the articles on their web site (the ones in Spanish and not Zapotec, anyway), the articles in the press about them, and the comments sections of those articles, and I talked with hacker friends of mine who live in Mexico City. I'm interested in minimalist computing systems like Oberon, Plan9, stage0, MesCC, Scheme, Forth, Squeak, OTCC, the LGP-30, and the Familia Toledo's Biyubi system; myself, I've written things like StoneKnifeForth and httpdito, a web server in under 2000 bytes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6908064

But only in my dreams do I approach achievements like Biyubi.

Good stuff.

>Probably nobody will read this comment here, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

I wondered the same thing, then I did a quick Google search and it turns out they're relatively known in Mexico They also have a web page: www.biyubi.com

Maybe "underground" was not the best description, but it is the case that much of their software remains unpublished, and so people still debate whether it really exists or not. I think it probably does, because 40 years of a family building extremely optimized software could produce a talent like Óscar Toledo G., while 40 years of running a con job would not.

"The coming war" definitely paints their view of the future as cynical, but as someone who works in robotics for military use it's hard to argue with it...

All the repos in the org looks pretty interesting: https://github.com/nanochess