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Isn't this the second time this has happened? Like, happening once is crazy enough but for it to happen twice? There is clearly some tampering happening with people trying to coax it a certain way. I also have to question the people who work at xAI. Are you all on board with Elon's very clear beliefs? Anything for a high enough paycheck?


At least the third time this year, but every post on HN related to grok's prompt gets flagged soon after, with a rigor not shared by any other political or "celebrity" topic.


I am always reminded of HN's interesting flagging habits when I think back to how well upvoted and certainly not flagged the Pope's death and appointment news articles were.


A US presidential candidate got shot and people flagged that. How would one even assess this 'rigor' without considering the things that never made it to begin with.

There was also at least one giant thread about the Grok South Africa thing.


How do you tell how much a topic is being flagged? Don't flagged posts disappear?


If you sort by /new or /active you can see flagged posts.


It's the same with anything negative related to Musk, DOGE, etc. Examples below.

And you can't just blame people flagging the stories - people ask for them to be whitelisted and are gaslit in response. No surprise, maybe, when Garry Tan and PG are writing fluffy tweets about Musk and the DOGE team.

Examples:

"Musk’s DOGE Goons Surreptitiously Transmitted Reams of White House Data" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44258556

(Is it new that flagged stories don't link where they used to?)

"Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44142790

"Tornado warnings delayed because of DOGE cuts" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44018247

"Elon Musk's Doge Moves to Gut Local Libraries While No One Is Looking" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43445571

"Doge Claimed It Saved $8B in One Contract. It Was $8M" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43101757 (eventually unflagged).

"EFF Sues DOGE and the Office of Personnel Management" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43020091 (unflagged after hours)

"Elon Musk's rapid unscheduled disassembly of the US government" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43007319

... And so on.

I started keeping a list of falsely flagged stories that I noticed in my favorites recently, and it has grown quite large. Everything Musk is a dominant theme.

We're not even allowed to discuss this censorship outside of comments: "Ask HN: What's with flagging articles criticizing Musk?" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42907426 (There are many other examples of this, and it is explicitly HN policy not to permit discussing the flagging policies here, ie, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43058574.)

Yet prolific commenters here will still praise HN for having such little censorship - it's pretty disturbing.


Yes; this shouldn't have been flagged.

1. Major tech company 2. Major failure of a tech product 3. A public relations disaster for AI

Of course this is a legitimate topic for discussion. Flagging it is bullshit.


All topics that negatively talk about Trump or Elon get flagged. I'll let you come to a conclusion as to why.


I think it's totally reasonable to flag posts about politics that don't connect to tech much (including non-tech stories about Elon/DOGE).

But then there are submissions like this one that are clearly tech-related: prominent AI alignment issues have to be topical here on HN. Or this one I recently submitted which was at the time new breaking revelations about the TikTok ban: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44461158. Also directly tech-related. And both posts have 100+ upvotes while still remaining flagged. It's definitely frustrating.


When technocrats become cornerstones of American democracy I think the "well it's political" arguments sort of dissolve. Yes, it is political, but it's also technical. Technology, both historically and presently, has been used for just about every political goal. What is War but not a demonstration of technology?




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